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Hazards Analysis, Miscellaneous

It is normal for some air ingress to occur from the vent stack outlet. This is not a hazard if the stack has been properly designed to withstand an internal explosion or fire. Once hydrogen flow from a device is initiated, it will sweep out any air that might be in the stack. Generally, if the vent rate is insufficient to sweep the air out, then it’s also insufficient to freeze or liquefy air…

Category: Miscellaneous
Keywords: Vent Stack, Flow

Purging can be accomplished in several ways including by using pressure cycles, sweeping, or vacuum. Sweeping is the least reliable but can be effective on simple pipe runs. In most cases, vent systems are open to the atmosphere and the ingress of air from the outlet is likely. However, the vent system should be designed to handle fire or explosion internally. This
generally is not…

Category: Miscellaneous
Keywords: Vent Stack, Purge

It is not possible to define ignition potential by just velocity without more data (i.e. pressure, materials involved, direction of impact). Due to the multiple methods of developing an ignition source (friction, impact, electrical charge) and the low ignition energy, it is assumed that hydrogen in the air will ignite (between 4 -74%), as it does 30-40% of the time with no known ignition…

Category: Miscellaneous

Several programs can predict this such as HyRAM or PHAST. The inputs are critical to a safe
answer.

This is not a simple answer due to the many types of flame lengths and flame orientations due to pressure and direction. NFPA 2 recommends that vent systems should be designed so that if the safety relief valve is relieving at capacity the radiative heat felt by an individual at grade…

No, but it depends on the application. Nearly all vents less than 4” in size are not purged with N2. This is primarily due to: 1) large flows required to dilute hydrogen below the flammable range, 2) the cost of the nitrogen, 3) the potential blockage of the stack when being inserted a vent header/stack serving a liquid hydrogen system, 4) the potential for backpressure (depending on the…

Category: Miscellaneous
Keywords: Vent, Purge, GH2, LH2

There is no specific requirement not to vent liquid hydrogen from a vent system. Best practice would be to only vent gas from the top of the vessel to relieve pressure. If liquid must be vented, it should be vaporized first. 

Note: It is very unusual to have LH2 flow from a liquid tank out the vent system, as the vent system is connected to the vapor space on the LH2 tanks and there…

Category: Miscellaneous

AICHE ELA253 CHS ” Introduction to Hydrogen Safety for First Responders” is a good reference and discusses both LH2 and GH2. LH2 fires are very unusual. LH2 releases usually are GH2 so the fires at either ambient for low flow or the GH2 is a cryo temperature for high flow. Fires from LH2 tanks ignite less frequently than GH2 high-velocity releases. The colder the gas the less potential for…

I am not sure which picture you are referring to so I will attempt to answer.

If you are referring to the incident where a fire occurred and the vent system was damaged, then this may have been due to lack of proper supports and incomplete assembly of the test systems. In the past, vent systems were not pressure tested for strength but that is changing. 

If you are talking…

Category: Miscellaneous

There is no standard which specifically specifies the use of a flapper. A properly designed flapper should provide de minimus restriction to vent flow, yet still provides weather protection which allows for a vertical release of the vent stack flow, which is best from a dispersion and radiation perspective. Flappers are extensively used successfully and safely on nearly all liquid hydrogen…

Category: Miscellaneous

CGA G-5.5 states: All vent stacks shall be grounded and meet the requirements of NFPA 70, National Electrical Code, for integrity and system design and also references NFPA 77, Recommended Practice on Static Electricity, and NFPA 780, Standard for the Installation of Lightning Protection Systems. 

For lightening refer to NFPA 780 and for grounding of the Hydrogen equipment, refer to…

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